More news from Holland on ME and XMRV in English
Hello Fred and Toos Lansbergen,
Toos is right about the qualifications of the Dutch pseudo-scientific gentlemen; and I am with Fred as regards Kuppeveld being on the level, which is a possibility I left open yesterday for lack of relevant information.
Well here is some, thanks to _Kim_ who found it and mailed it to me:
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:24:26 +0200
> From: m.koolhaas@ONLINE.NL
> Subject: [CO-CURE] NOT: Press release: XMRV virus found in Dutch patients
> To: CO-CURE@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU
> This press release was issued today 2010/16/04 in The Netherlands bij dutch
> jounalist Toine de Graaf. Here is an English translation.
> XMRV virus found in Dutch patients
> Gendringen, 2010/04/16 - Researchers at UMC St. Radboud announced in
> February no XMRV virus has been found in the blood of Dutch chronic fatigue
> syndrome (ME/CFS) patients. They concealed, however, that U.S. reseachers
> did found traces of this retrovirus in blood samples of the same patient.
> This is shown in a web publication of Ortho magazine, which is put online
> For years medical researchers have been searching for the biological cause
> of CFS, but always without success. Last October Americans announced a
> breakthrough: researchers from the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) in
> Reno found the retrovirus XMRV in many patients with ME/CFS. The study was
> published in the leading scientific journal Science, after a Research period
> of 2.5 years.
> Researchers at UMC St. Radboud had doubts and decided to repeat the Science
> research, with frozen blood samples from Dutch patients from 1991-1992. The
> study took place very rapidly under the leadership of Nijmegen experimental
> virologist Dr. Frank Kuppeveld and internist Professor Dr. Jos van der Meer.
> But they found nothing. "Neither in the blood of 32 patients, nor in that of
> the 43 controls, the retrovirus was found ", the UMC St. Radboud was quoted
> in a press release issued at the end of last February.
> Now it is obvious certain things are concealed. This week a letter has been
> made public by Annette Whittemore, who directs the WPI. In this letter she
> describes that the WPI, at the request of Frank Van Kuppeveld, has tested
> some blood samples from the Dutch cohort study prior to the completion of
> the Nijmegen study. The WPI found traces of XMRV in these samples.
> Whittemore says she possesses email correspondence that shows Van Kuppeveld
> was aware of the WPI research results before the Dutch study was published
> in the British Medical Journal.
> The web publication of Ortho provides a reconstruction of events based on an
> interview with Dr. Judy Mikovits, Research Director of the WPI. The web
> publication coincides with the appearance of the April issue of Ortho, were
> further attention is spent on XMRV.
> Further information (in Dutch):
I have just woken up (and gave _Kim_ a link to the previous page: sorry - just awoke), but the above strongly reports that at Radboud MC pseudo-scientists falsify and abuse the scientific method and try to deceive and upset real scientists.
Incidentally, having spoken to a Dutch CFS-specialist recently: Also in that world - "where everybody knows everybody", he said, so I gave him my kind regards to Van der Meer & Bleijenberg, who I just love to see in court against me to have their last cent for fraud, deception, harming patients, lying, lying andd more lying, and upsetting on purpose te health, life and chances of the Dutch ME-patients - there is what sounded to me as an insane amount of claptrap, backchat, rumour etc.
To judge by what he told me Peterson and Whittemore are to their neck in debts; their institute does not exist etc. etc. - all in spite of the fact (or because of the fact) that no Dutchmen ever got into "Science" with any article about ME/CFS and the fact that even if they are sinners by all criterions of all churches, the relevant questions for real science are first and foremost the real merits of their scientific research.
Anyway, my own take on it is here, and it seems quite a few have picked this up
Title: ME: On the postmodern falsifications in Wessely & McClures BMJ-editorial
Also, it seems to have been all correct by me - and I know my philosophy of science and methodology, unlike the lady and the gentleman, of whom it is also clear that they falsify what they know if it suits the purpose to shoot down any hope for people with ME for real bio-medical research, real funding for it, and real help or at least a basically humane treatment of patients with ME.
I have just awoken, so later more.
And the last reference in the quote was treated on this thread yesterday: the above is new.