Dear Alesh,

 

 
Quote Originally Posted by Alesh View Post
Hello Maarten,

my hint to an IDF unit was just a joke, of course, and perhaps an impolite one. I gained my atheism at www.infidels.org after many years of reading about religion vs. nontheism. Now when I am desperate of being sick I find some consolation in thinking about the times when I was both sick and believed I will go the Hell. But I don't want to underestimate the role of spirituality or religion in anyone else's life.

I didn't experience it as "impolite" at all, Alesh, and I am glad you got rid of the fears of Hell. Also, you are right about the great roles spirituality or religion have played and do play in human history. And indeed, they are beliefs and coordinate desires, and that much is true of anything humans consciously live by. I have no fight with that, nor do I have fights with people who believe otherwise than I do - until they start persecuting, locking up, or killing those of what appear mistaken beliefs and misdirected desires to them. But yes, this is not only religious, it is also political, and behind much that is quite horrific in human history.

Yea verily, it even has its own prophets in latter day psychiatry, at KCL and CDC..., talking about "persecuting, locking up, or killing those of what appear mistaken beliefs and misdirected desires".

Best wishes,

Maarten.