Hello Mithriel (and others)

You wrote:

Quote Originally Posted by Mithriel View Post
This is a wonderful document from a very elderly man who has defended us and fought for us for decades.

Maaretn is completely correct that the phrase was used to stick in the minds of listeners and to give an overall impression yet still be deniable.

If Esther wants to be fair and reasonable and give these people the benefit of the doubt while they walk all over us that is her right.

I for one hope that the APA pay more attention to the content and overwhelming evidence in the document.

Mithriel

Thank you, and I completely agree. Also thanks to others in this thread for the truly excellent link I did not know:

Title: A Response to Michael Sharpe
Link: http://fumblings.com/msharpe.html

This is very well worth reading, in general, and in the context of this thread and discussion.

And as to being fair and reasonable or being satirical and sarcastic, especially with the Sharpes and Wesselys, I quote my favourite book from The Book:

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
-- Ecclesiastes 3. 1-8

Maarten.