Hello Andrew,

You wrote

I've noticed for years that vBulletin won't show a thread as having new activity for the person who posted the new activity. I guess the assumption is that what they posted the message, then it is not new to the poster.

I guess (and assert) "it's not a feature but a bug", as programmers say. Anyway: The post I mentioned was not shown in the list of what's new whether or not I was logged in.

I'm not sure what you are talking about happening when you are logged out. There is no "new" button unless you are logged in.

Well... one of the bugs a.k.a. features is that "New Posts" if one is logged in get's renamed "Today's Posts" if logged out. And as I said before, another bug a.k.a. feature is that under either name the software produces what seems to be precisely the same list (i.e. "Today's Post" go back for several days, as does "What's new").

But sometimes I can post a message to a thread, go right back into a thread and not see my message. This seems to be because of my browser's cache. If I refresh the page it shows up.

That - for a change - doesn't happen for me (so far, that is). In any case, I guess it is a bug made by vBulletins rather than in the software of your browser (programmed by good programmers), and indeed the handling of cookies seems flawed.

This is so because over the last months I could get rid of - or at least work around - most problems I encountered by getting rid of cookies i.e. logging out or clearing out the cookies on my computer.

Anyway... I've seen and used much better bulletin boards, that also were free and had open source code.

And no, I don't blame anyone on the forum (unless they make money from it or programmed it, that is, which I don't have any idea about).

But for me that's the rub: I know how to program (though not in PHP, in which vBulletin is probably written); I have used this kind of forum software rather a lot, with many others, on several programmers' forums and without encountering or reading of ANY problem with the forum's software; and so it is a bit strange I have seen a slate of problems with this forum's software, that looks rather like the ones I've used succesfully, except that this forumsoftware is neither free nor open source.

Maarten.

But sometimes I can post a message to a thread, go right back into a thread and not see my message. This seems to be because of my browser's cache. If I refresh the page it shows up.

That - for a change - doesn't happen for me (so far, that is). In any case, I guess it is a bug made by vBulletins rather than in the software of your browser (programmed by good programmers), and indeed the handling of cookies seems flawed.

This is so because over the last months I could get rid of - or at least work around - most problems I encountered by getting rid of cookies i.e. logging out or clearing out the cookies on my computer.

Anyway... I've seen and used much better bulletin boards, that also were free and had open source code.

And no, I don't blame anyone on the forum (unless they make money from it or programmed it, that is, which I don't have any idea about).

But for me that's the rub: I know how to program (though not in PHP, in which vBulletin is probably written); I have used this kind of forum software rather a lot, with many others, on several programmers' forums and without encountering or reading of ANY problem with the forum's software; and so it is a bit strange I have seen a slate of problems with this forum's software, that looks rather like the ones I've used succesfully, except that this forumsoftware is neither free nor open source.

Maarten.